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I am pleasantly surprised and impressed by your thoughts and your writing, especially considering your age. You initially claim to be an atheist. However, just as I had thought, by the time I reached the end of your article, I was sure that you believe in God.
    Belief and understanding are different things. If you do not understand    theory of relativity, would you claim that you do not believe it?

    In case you are interested, I would like to suggest you an authoritative book on this. "Shrimad Bhagvad Geeta Rahasya" by Bal Gangadhar Tilak. The original book is in Marathi but a very good english translation is also available. This is a commentary on the Bhagvat Geeta w.r.t. what you should do in your life. I find it quiet invigorating.

I wish and hope that you get the answers to your questions.

And something about me. I too am an engineer like you trying to decipher life and the mind of God.


Warm Regards,
Sadanand Sheorey


-Sadanand

 

 

Hello Sadanand,
I don't believe in god, but i do believe it is some sort of metaphor for something inherently positive, like some kind of vibe or something.


I am pleased to read your mail. I will definitely look out for the book. Do keep visiting, it is good to know people with similar interests and ideology.
This is the main purpose of the site, as it is hard to meet people with such notions to discuss.
Hope to see you often.

- Shvm

 

 

hm, how can you say that god is uncertainty and darkness? sure, hes not light, nor an ethereal being, but darkness and uncertainty? wouldnt you agree that 'god' is a poetic concept meant to give a 'positive' (so to speak) on things? i would hardly think that that qualifies as darkness or doubt, self-delusion perhaps, but darkness and uncertainty?

are you the author of the site?

- Jcharliem

 

 

Yes I am the author,
These are the analogies I tried too put down.
Of all the things you believe about god, the perceptions are best explained and possessed by darkness and not light.
Apart from the points explained in the article... here are some more-
1) Darkness cannot be seen yet it is seen everywhere.
2) No senses of ours can measure or feel darkness, but we can

     measure and feel light.
3) Darkness does not need a source... so it does not have a

     birth nor does it die.

you can come up with 'n' no. of analogies once you try to think about it.

About uncertainty now,
It is a very fascinating concept to me, nothing is predictable and certain, the very chance of you, knowing something changes the fact you know... wow! that's a magnificent phrase that captivates me every time I think about it.

- Shvm

 

 

I cant say that I agree. there is a thought, a vibe, that is positive, and this "reflection" (if you will) harbors a positive outlook on life. this is what god is. you might argue (like I say) that its self delusion, but its far from "explained and possessed by darkness". To me, 'darkness' is nothing more than a negative reference, and in no way beneficial to the self. also, how can you so easily state that light is the opposite of darkness? sure, it is in a literal sense, but metaphorically? I find it to be nothing short of vulgar poetry. excuse me if I sound harsh, but aren't some thoughts and inspirations worth having? and passing on?

I don't believe in god, but i do believe it is some sort of metaphor for something inherently positive, like some kind of vibe or something. would you be open that suggestion?

and yeah, uncertainty, it really is a paradox that a higher degree of certainty can be achieved by doubting more. its like a generator of trust =)

where are you from anyhow?

- Jcharliem

 

 

"I don't believe in god, but I do believe it is some sort of metaphor for something inherently positive, like some kind of vibe or something. would you be open that suggestion?
"

Exactly... same situation here,
but just tell me who gave you a perception that darkness is negativity and light is positive?... well the answer would be-'everyone'. I take this a a prevailing myth.
No one understands darkness as everyone is searching for light... you yourself attribute positive things with light, the fact is, you wish to seek for something that is existent. You can not pray for nobody (darkness), you always want some reference for god. As he can not be explained and mystified with the concept of darkness it is interpreted as light. Just a way to delude yourself.

- Shvm

 

 

well, I equate 'darkness'/spiritual darkness as a result of a collective lack of compassion, and the problems that follows. this goes for all of us. but I agree that darkness shouldn't be equated with something negative, but a lot of people do, and we shouldn't exclude them either.

well, I don't think there is much to say about darkness. I'm pretty sure that Satanists and other narrow minded people think of it as reference to "the negative", so it doesn't seem to be beneficial.

I'm not searching for 'light' by the way.If you understand enlightenment as in terms of weight, it makes more sense. i don't think looking for god as a light-being is a particularly good idea.

are you into religion? where did you come from again?

- Jcharliem

 

 

Ya I am from India,
I equate darkness/blankness as a state of peace and serenity. I see it as a doorway to your inner self and to god. I see darkness as a relevant thing, I do not go for its spiritual meanings and all... I am scientific in approach. I believe that I am my god, ie; my god is in my sub consciousness somewhere. I see darkness as an opportunity to see god, the god that lies within me, not like people who are afraid of it... it is human psychology, the things we are fascinated of are considered 'heavenly'. Man feared lightening, fire, hurricanes, earthquakes and so started worshipping them as gods...Early Indian culture displays everything as made by god but god himself is something beyond that. The educated ones at that time knew what to search for... these mythologies were just to fascinate the ignorant people.
Read my profile in my site and may be you will get some answers to ' Why do I have such contradicting notions?'

- Shvm

 

 

LoL, the answer lies within ur stomach. Fascination and worship is for the ignorant, this we agree on, but all cultural beliefs aren't wrong. I do believe we all have contradicting notions about stuff. its part of the 'trust generator' =)

but even so, I don't think mental darkness is the same as nothingness, oblivion indeed carries a 'negative' connotation. do you know sri ramana maharsi's teachings? do you know any schizophrenics?

I believe the answer to these big questions lie within the stomach, and is for each and every one to figure out. morality is difficult but rewarding.

why this fascination of darkness? r u into goth and stuff?

- Jcharliem

 

 

Laughing out loud,

 I am not into goth and all that, I am just a simple guy with some unconventional thinking. I have a tendency to question everything and look for answers. I look for similar questions and then try to correlate the solutions of faced problem with the observed answers. I am in no sense a negative person, and am in love with life (you would have known it by now through the theme of the site).

I would still ask you this question, What makes you perceive that I am a negative being?. Why are you symbolizing my beliefs with negativity, goth, etc? Is it just the perception of darkness? It takes time to absorb a phenomenon that's contradictory to a prevalent myth. Don't you think that darkness 'may be' the source of everything? It was there even before the 'big bang' and it will be the only thing that is left after the final end... What else than god could survive in such situation... Do you still think that light is what that should be pursued for?

- Shvm

 

 

Hi..

no doubt I liked it..!!
"I realize, what I am going through will also fade up just as a memory. So enjoy everything I do in life and wish to live every moment to the fullest. .."

- Ryanjim

 

 

Okay, ur not getting me here. 'darkness' is not good for the organism, in fact, the stomach disproves of it and any attemtp to meditate on it itself leads nowhere. u were saying something about darkness being our bad deeds or something, this i think is constructive. an appropiate way to clearing away darkness and confusion is to be good and kind. there is no true justification of behaviour found outside of urself. that just something youll have to get convinced about urself, and therein lies salvation. god is NOT a being of light.

hm, think the amount of energy in the universe is constant, and that it has its own way of renewing itself. if this is big bang or harmony of movement and energy, i do not know, i think the latter is more poetically inspiring.

darkness was there before the universe? i think ur logic is getting confused. what kind of darkness are you talking about here? (since you dont find darkness to be disturbing, youll have no difficulty answering)

and no, light is NOT what we are looking for. if you understand it as in terms of weight, it is what your looking for, but light? do you think light to be the opposite of darkness? (metaphorically speaking)

do you know the 'kabbalah'? u know, jewish mysticism? i think its exactly what ur looking for, but to me its just confusing.

- Jcharliem

 

 

Ya probably we are confusing each other, I am just taking the practical, real darkness and I think you are explaining it metaphorically. I am stating that God is nothing but all the definitions of god are satisfied by 'darkness' and not by the concept of 'light'. I am just saying that the prevalent myth of considering light as the metaphor/analogy for god is incorrect. I use the word 'god' just as a reference I do not mean anything specific.

I explain god as a form of 'energy' and human as a form of 'matter'. They both are the same thing, just that, No one
living can explain god as human can not understand it's own form of energy and when he does, he 'is' the energy, ie;
god. Maybe that is what is referred as oneness with god or unison.
That is my funda of god.

- Shvm

 

  Hm, okay then, I guess we agree. God is not 'light'. =)
 

- Jcharliem

 

         

 

 

 

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